A whine about wine and social media …
Posted by Bob Benz
I found myself a captive audience on an elliptical at the Seattle Westin yesterday, and my TV choices were slim. After some sweaty channel surfing, I settled on Jim Cramer’s Mad Money on CNBC. He’s always good for a few yuks.
Yesterday’s show featured oenophile Gary Vaynerchuk. He and Cramer went back and forth about stocks that might be of interest to wine drinkers. Most of the stocks they favored are companies that have large interests in hard liquor. The spirits industry is very brand driven, but wines don’t work as well in that arena. People like to try a lot of different wines. But a Maker’s Mark drinker tends to stick to Maker’s Mark with an occasional foray over into Woodford Reserve when feeling flush.
Overall, Vaynerchuck was unimpressed with the companies’ online efforts.
“None of them have shown me any skill in social media, in Web 2.0,” he said. ” … None of these companies are saying to me it’s 2008, we’re embracing social media. Nobody is using Twitter. Nobody is leveraging Facebook properly. This is such a fundamental way to build brand in America, and I don’t see any of these monsters doing it.”
Interesting point, both for the liquor products and wine. Look at the rise of Red Bull. It was very much a word-of-mouth, social phenomenon and study in brand building. It seems a smart, calculated approach to building brand via social media could be really effective, especially for liquor distilleries and vintners. Why would a wine maker not strive to create an online community where people talk about the product, share it with friends and enjoy discounts and inside news about coming vintages. It wouldn’t be that hard to think in these terms for boutique retailers and other niche products that are heavily driven by cultlike consumers. And it’s cheap and easy. I’ve always been a little leery of some of the social media stuff because it doesn’t have an instant money button. But this is an interesting way to bundle Web 2.0 functionality with packages that can drive traffic to the retailer.
As for which wines to “invest” in from a purchase and lay away perspective, Vaynerchuck was recommending the 2004 and 2005 Bordeaux vintages. While the market has moved already on the 2005 vintage, which he calls “one of the greatest vintages of all time,” he still thinks it’s worth buying and holding cases of it. And because the 2005 vintange changed the price structure, he believes great deals can be had by buying 2004. He’s also big on Portuguese wines, though not so much from an investment perspective
I’m going to pick up a copy of his 101 Wines: Guaranteed to Inspire, Delight and Bring Thunder to Your World. Sounds like a good read … I could use a break from the box wines I’ve been dancing with.
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May 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
So we just need to become web-savvy vintners, and we’ll all be rich! And drunk!
May 15th, 2008 at 11:06 am
You should check out http://tv.winelibrary.com/. It’s exactly what you’re talking about, and Gary’s ROI has skyrocketed.
May 15th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Maker’s Mark has the Kentucky Bourbon Circle that’s quite popular (dad and bro-in-law are in it). Hugh Macleod did all the social media work for Stormhoek. I’m sure there have to be more examples out there, or on the way.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Glad you blogged about Gary’s appearance. I was disappointed he overlooked what Beam Global is doing in the social media space, largely because I have a hand in it and I told him about some of our social media activity at SXSW.
Maker’s Mark has a blog (inside the Ambassador’s program, believed to be the first in the spirits industry), Jim Beam just launched a full-scale social media-driven program at TheStuffInside.com (not many people have heard of it yet … just launched this week … also believed to be the first of its kind in the spirits industry) and brands like Knob Creek, Canadian Club and Sauza are doing some interesting things as well. Guess I didn’t do a good enough job of letting Gary know all that. Too bad.
Kudos to Mark for giving Hugh Macleod props on Stormhoek. That was/is a great organic campaign.
Excellent observations above. Just don’t think that Beam Global doesn’t have stuff brewing just because Gary didn’t say so. Heh.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:58 am
A good example of a winery taking web2.0 seriously is Stormhoek:
http://www.quirk.biz/articles/stormhoek
featured in the book Groundswell, as an example of a company using the social media to increase awareness.
May 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
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May 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Some Australian winemakers had a foray into using Twitter to boost sales of various niche and boutique brands with Project Vino. The Twitter handle is: “ProjectVino”. I wasn’t a part of it but did a little catching up. One thing to note - they also leveraged Yahoo! Live for the event - though no one discussed that. Ah well.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/30/project-vino-twitter-wine-tasting/